The biological father never looks at Alexia. You have to get rid of all the preconceived ideas you can have about what you want that person to be, what you expect that person to be, what you were taught that person would be. Not only who that person is but who that person might become somehow. It’s like you have one level of touching that is not permitted but you can allow yourself to do something like touching with your eyes, which is absolutely invasive.ĪP: There are also broader implications for looking in “Titane.”ĭUCOURNAU: The whole film is a lot about deconstructing the look, the gaze you can have of someone, and trying to shed the layers of social construct to finally see a person for real. How terrible it is to say something like that, like it’s OK to touch with your eyes. But this is something that I find incredibly moving.ĪP: Early in “Titane,” while Alexia is stripping, a body guard reprimands her fans by saying: “Touch with your eyes.” Does that line represent something to you?ĭUCOURNAU: It does. I think this is the reason no one is satisfied by their own body. The way you apprehend your own body is already monstrous. You’re going to see your belly protruding. You’re going to look at the cellulite on your thighs. But the way we look at our own bodies, from our own POV, it’s really close. At the end of the day, we all take off our clothes and look at our bodies. Everything that makes us common but that we don’t want to talk about are actually in the open on our bodies, but we tend to hide them. You can tell a lot about someone’s history and vulnerabilities. But I see it as something that could be, to which we could aspire.ĪP: How would you describe what bodies are for you as a filmmaker?ĭUCOURNAU: For me, bodies are like the book of humanity. I’m not saying it’s possible for us in our lifetime to reach this level of shedding layers and seeing right into the essence of a person - beyond any determinism, beyond any social determinism, gender being one. I see love as a becoming, not as a state. I can’t imagine tackling that feeling in a way that’s not absolute and unconditional. One of the hardest things for me to talk about is love. AP: Did “Titane” start with any idea or image?ĭUCOURNAU: The first thing I was sure of is that I wanted to focus on love.
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